Icons + Source

Gast

Loving your app - I've defected from using FMA!!

As a developer I'm keen to learn so I have two cheeky questions:

1) Where did you get the application icons from?

2) Have you/will you be releasing the source? I'm a VB developer and would love to have a look 'under the hood'

Cheers

ForToffee Very Happy

Site Admin Anmeldedatum: 04.01.2006 Beiträge: 15631 Wohnort: Tirol

1) The icons arent real selfmade. Some of them you can get free in the www, others i have extracted and modified from other apps.

2) MyPhoneExplorer goes never OpenSource. The risk is too hight that other companies earn money with my hard work. If you have special questions then ask and i can give you a part of the sourcecode.

Anmeldedatum: 04.03.2007 Beiträge: 3

FJ hat Folgendes geschrieben:

1) The icons arent real selfmade. Some of them you can get free in the www, others i have extracted and modified from other apps.

2) MyPhoneExplorer goes never OpenSource. The risk is too hight that other companies earn money with my hard work. If you have special questions then ask and i can give you a part of the sourcecode.

Please, please, please, FJ, if this is what makes you anxious about making MyPhoneExplorer OpenSource, please read what I am about to say :

If you released MyPhoneExplorer as free software by opening your code under GPL licence (v2) for instance, NO company would be allowed to use it to make money of it. Instead, any commercial program using bits of MPE would have to be opened too, the companies would have to ask your permission to use parts of MPE, and you would be credited if ever you give permission! I fully understand you not wanting to get your work stolen, I used to be a developer myself.

If your will is to help the SE phoneuser community (which I am pretty sure is the case, seeing how quickly you answer to questions on this board) this IS THE BEST thing to do. You can't imagine how much people would be greatful to you, and you would surely get tremendous help and new ideas from developers all around the world, MPE would get even better as it is now, full Linux version would get done within weeks, debugging would be vastly enhanced, and.. and... well I can't really think about all the advantages of releasing MPE as a community project, versus keeping it as a private project.

Obviously, you'd still be the master chief.

Please, at least give it a second thought. Embarassed

(Not everyone on planet Earth uses Windows...)

Site Admin Anmeldedatum: 04.01.2006 Beiträge: 15631 Wohnort: Tirol

I know the pros and contras.
In MyPhoneExplorer is 2 years of hard work - why i should make it open-source? There are other projects with more developers - there makes open-source more sence.

My offer for everybody is to help if help is needed (also on programming-knowledge). But up to yet there is no linux-user which want to make a project like this.

Second thing: FMA is open-source - where is the linux-version of FMA ?

Anmeldedatum: 04.03.2007 Beiträge: 3

FJ hat Folgendes geschrieben:

I know the pros and contras.

Well, in your previous message, you didn't seem to...You seemed to think people would make money out of your hard time...

FJ hat Folgendes geschrieben:

why i should make it open-source?

Why shouldn't you? I mean, you don't sell your program, what you get from keeping up with MPE is not money, but more 1)personal amusement in bringing smart stuff to others 2)credits from people who use it. Am I not right? We all know how good is your hardwork, opening the code doesn't change anything to this. It just enables people to bring their own skills and ideas to your work and make it even better.

FJ hat Folgendes geschrieben:

There are other projects with more developers - there makes open-source more sence.

Yee there are, and I took a slight look at some of them, and I have to tell you : your work is the best of all. Sorry pal Wink

FJ hat Folgendes geschrieben:

My offer for everybody is to help if help is needed (also on programming-knowledge).

Well ok

I need help. I trying to make the last MPE release work on my linux box (wine enabled if necessary)

FJ hat Folgendes geschrieben:

But up to yet there is no linux-user which want to make a project like this.

I'd be happy to provide such a program for linux, but I have not got 1)time 2)skills 3)knowledge about SE phones & protocols. There are several topics on this board about linux support for MPE, which clearly prooves there IS some interest in getting MPE services available on Linux.
Maybe some linux people would be interested to port MPE to Linux, but as you know, this is not nearly as a complicated task as to start up, from scratch, a new project, reverse engineer the SE protocol, ... It might take years.
Why start over again everything? You already did a brilliant job! No point in reinventing something which already works.

I was just trying to make you understand that would be a way to help even MORE people. Nevermind Wink

Farewell. I suppose I'll have to keep up using my damn office windows computer to use MPE...

cheers

ps: FMA is Delphi

Gast

FJ hat Folgendes geschrieben:

1) The icons arent real selfmade. Some of them you can get free in the www, others i have extracted and modified from other apps.

2) MyPhoneExplorer goes never OpenSource. The risk is too hight that other companies earn money with my hard work. If you have special questions then ask and i can give you a part of the sourcecode.

1) Could you point me at your web sources please?

2) I understand, I have no particular questions, it was just curiosity.

Cheers

Carl

Site Admin Anmeldedatum: 04.01.2006 Beiträge: 15631 Wohnort: Tirol

@ForToffee:
http://www.iconaholic.com (at the moment offline)
http://www.crystalxp.net

If you need the icons from MPE just load the file IconLib.dll into a resource-extractor (for private use)

Site Admin Anmeldedatum: 04.01.2006 Beiträge: 15631 Wohnort: Tirol

@phentex: Do you know my plans for this project ? MyPhoneExplorer is so long Freeware as i get enought donations - after that i will make it to shareware. I never wanted to make big money with my work, but its very much time i spend in this project and i don't want to loose my time for something what brings me not forward. If you have some knowledge on the "real life" then you will understand this.

Version 1.3.3 works with wine, the later releases have problems cause wine cannot handle the library SPort.dll which MyPhoneExplorer uses. I meant in the above post that there are no linux-developers which want to realize something like MPE for Linux. FMA is Delphi - right. But where is the problem ? Every advandged developer is at least able to read and understand source from other languages.

FJ hat Folgendes geschrieben:

@phentex: Do you know my plans for this project ? MyPhoneExplorer is so long Freeware as i get enought donations - after that i will make it to shareware. I never wanted to make big money with my work, but its very much time i spend in this project and i don't want to loose my time for something what brings me not forward. If you have some knowledge on the "real life" then you will understand this.

to give you, dear FJ, something to read, which "brings you forward":

Zitat:

Die von der Free Software Foundation (FSF) entwickelte GPL definiert vor allem weit gehende Rechte für den Anwender: Er darf Einsicht in die Quelltexte eines Programms nehmen, etwa um seine Funktionsweise zu verstehen; er darf die Quelltexte verändern, um die Software beispielsweise eigenen Bedürfnissen anzupassen, und Teile des Codes für eigene Projekte verwenden; und er darf das Programm in unveränderter oder modifizierter Form weitergeben. Dabei unterliegt er im wesentlichen nur einer Verpflichtung: Er muss auch den Empfängern des Programmes die in der GPL garantierten Rechte einräumen.

Das Prinzip Copyleft

Die Kombination aus großen Freiheiten bei der Nutzung mit der Verpflichtung, diese Freiheiten bei der Weitergabe oder Verwendung des Codes zu erhalten, bezeichnet die FSF als Copyleft. In den Dikussionen um die GPL wird dieses Ziel der Free Software Foundation -- Code, der unter der GPL steht, muss Open Source bleiben -- gelegentlich als "viraler Effekt" der Lizenz angesprochen.

Copyleft impliziert nicht, dass der Entwickler, der seine Software unter die GPL stellt, sein Copyright am eigenen Code aufgibt. Es steht ihm beispielsweise frei, seine Software zusätzlich unter anderen Lizenzen etwa zur Nutzung in proprietären, nicht quelloffenen Programmen zu lizenzieren.

Quelle